Marantz UD9004 , Denon DVD A1UDCI, Universal Players

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Marantz UD9004 , Denon DVD A1UDCI, Universal Players

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Pt moment o mica comparatie

DENON DVD A1 UDCI versus MARANTZ UD 9004

Diferenta calitativa dintre cele 2 este practic zero - in mare ACELEASI chipuri,dacuri,decodoare - doar pe HD audio DENON foloseste DL4 pt sincronizare master clock cind se foloseste audio prin HDMI alaturi de proprietarul D.D.S.C, Marantz - HDAM-SA2 analog audio modules.

Denon D.D.S.C - http://www.audioproducts.com.au/downloa ... n/DDSC.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Denon Link DL4 - am gasit multe reviews care apreciaza acest link intre player si procesor = the world's first jitter suppression technology to include video signals Descriere completa aici

http://www.denon.com/glossary/2009/02/d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... k-4th.html

Pt surround sound, Denon se integreaza cu procesorul, utilizind iesirile analogice spre procesor, care utilizeaza ALPHA Advanced Processing - o chestie pe care Denon a pionerit-o

http://www.denon.com/glossary/2009/02/a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... l32-p.html

Denon foloseste pe video, ca upscaler - Realta de la Silicon Optix, Marantz ABT2010 de la ABT. Parerile sint impartite, Denon a folosit acelasi ABT chip la playerele lor mai vechi, acum folosesc Realta.

"Two advantages to Realta are without room for debate. One is the presence of temporal noise reduction (absent in ABT2010) and two is superior scaling (more ringing w/ABT2010).

My testing reveals superior video deinterlacing for 1080i w/Realta (about equal to ABT2010 with 480i). For film, testing (both 480i/1080i) was about equal. However, with real-world performance Realta is clearly superior in producing usable, artifact-free 1080p24 from film sources (480i/720p/1080i both pre-recorded and broadcast) while ABT2010 stumbles especially with broadcast material producing unacceptable jerkiness. This tells me that Realta picks up the cadence more rapidly and accurately more of the time vs. ABT2010"

Discutie completa Realta/ABT - http://www.avforums.com/forums/video-sc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... r-bay.html

Playerul echivalent de la Marantz UD 9004 este practic la fel - aceeasi constructie in 7 module, aceleasi componente - Marantz are picioruse de cupru ( fonta la Denon ), plus carcasa interioara si surubele de cupru .Marantz e mai greu cu citeva grame. Despre piciorusele de fonta de la Denon -Direct Mechanical Ground Construction
http://www.denon.com/glossary/2009/03/v" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... esist.html

Playerul de la Denon e facut in mare ca o integrare cu pre/pro si power ampul - de fapt, ca si componente pt home theater , acest trio ar multumi 99 % din populatia audiovideofila.

Ambele facute sub acelasi holding D&M. Cine zice ca unul sau altul suna sau vede mai bine, e doar reclama ! Oricare l-ai alege, ajungi la aceleasi rezultate f. bune.

Pacat ca nu au scos si cei de la Marantz un pre/procesor si power amp separate la acelasi nivel .Ar fi fost o concurenta mai strinsa.

P.S Noul player universal, flagshipul de la McIntosh MVP881 este bazat pe playerul Denon, este identic inauntru si panoul spate, foloseste Silicon Optix Realta ca si Denon.( nu ABT ). Se pare ca singurul upgrade ar fi R-core transformer power supply ! Pretul $ 8k fata de $ 5k pt Denon !!!


http://www.hemagazine.com/McIntosh_MVP881_BR" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.avrev.com/forum/blu-ray-play" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 1udci.html
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Cel mai controversat player universal este OPPO BDP-83 SE - De ce ? Pt ca ofera performante deosebit la un pret de nimic . Sint prea multe de spus.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=op ... g6&oq=OPPO+" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Si colac peste pupaza, mai trimite si bitstream DSD pentru SACD prin HDMI ! Asta iti permite sa folosesti un decodor extern de top pentru SACD si facilitatea eu unul am vazut-o numai la scule rare si scumpe !

P.S. Unii tuneaza la greu playerele OPPO !
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cosmin wrote:P.S. Unii tuneaza la greu playerele OPPO !
Te referi la Ayre , Theta si Lexicon ? :mrgreen:

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LEKTOR wrote:
cosmin wrote:P.S. Unii tuneaza la greu playerele OPPO !
Te referi la Ayre , Theta si Lexicon ? :mrgreen:

http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49501//y?page=first" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Nu ar fi de mirare ca McIntosh MVP881 sa fie tot Denonul ala A1UDCI cu alta carcasa si 3000$ in plus.

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Marantz, Denon si McIntosh sint sub acelasi holding D&M - deci asa este ! Ar trebui sa fie mindri ca au sub carcasa Denon si nu Oppo ! :mrgreen:
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Review nou despre Marantz - Feb 11,2010 - " Fellow D&M Holdings manufacturer Denon is still top in our list of the highest-rated players with the DVD-A1 UD. But the Denon player only beats the UD 9004 by 0.2 points out of 10. As you can imagine, therefore, we’re far from disappointed with the Marantz: excellent picture quality, excellent sound quality, even excellent build quality

One interesting difference we found between this and Denon’s top player is the emphasis the Marantz places on high-quality analog audio outputs. Where SA-CD outputs uncompressed via Denon Link on the DVD-A1 UD, the Marantz UD 9004 compresses the signal via HDMI and only gives its best results via analog cinch "

http://www.televisions.com/players/mara ... D-9004.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prin acest DL4 plus HDMI, Denon a construit tot trio-ul ca o imbinare intre procesor/preamp si player si power - asa zisa combina ! :mrgreen:
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LEKTOR wrote:Marantz, Denon si McIntosh sint sub acelasi holding D&M - deci asa este ! Ar trebui sa fie mindri ca au sub carcasa Denon si nu Oppo ! :mrgreen:
Salut,
Una peste alta, desi nu sunt un mare cunoscator si sfatuitor in ale echipamentelor de casa cantatoare pot spune atat:
1.Sunt mandru posesor de OPPO BD-95.Bine a ajuns la mine in ograda!
2.Ieftin pentru unii, scump pentru altii, e un player foarte ok ca sunet cel putin.Fara a face comentarii de genul ''emotie , scena adanca "" cum citeam pe alte forumuri e muzical cel putin dupa urechile mele.
3.Cred ca la capitolul audio nu e mai prejos decat fratii lui A1UD si 9004.Un amic are A1UD si venind la mine a fost placut impresionat si chiar vrea sa faca o comparatie la el acasa pe sculele lui.

Celor cu Denon, Marantz si altele le doresc sa se bucure de ele.
Averea:OPPO BD-95, NAD 375 BEE, YAMAHA RX-A 2020,Anthem A2 Statement, MA GS10, PSB T 65, PSB C 40, PSB B25, Cambridge Audio DVD 89, NAD DAC 1 Wireless, Pioneer CT 737

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Oricum, mai ieftin si mai "calitativ" iesi daca folosesti solutii dedicate (BluRay pe TV) CD-Player pt muzica. :P
Sa bagi pretul unui autoturism intr-o solutie de compromis la care sa-i mai scazi valoarea la revanzare printr-un "tuning de garaj" nu mi se pare rezonabil. Parere proprie, evident...

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